Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 18, 2022 Meteorologist Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) A potentially crazy ring of fire event is coming up. Should bring extreme, possibly record breaking heat to the Plains and severe weather to the Great Lakes/OV/Midwest. Edited July 29, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Friday has a lot going for it and that's just friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbucks Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I have nest week off work, was hoping for some nice pool days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Scorcher today 🤮 3 places in the state were “officially” >/= 110, NOT heat index, actual temp. Dew point here was 74 I believe. This is just the local office reports:: Edited July 19, 2022 by SoDakFarmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 There's a day 3 enhanced area. Quote Day 3 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0230 AM CDT Thu Jul 21 2022 Valid 231200Z - 241200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PARTS OF THE UPPER MIDWEST... ...SUMMARY... Scattered severe thunderstorms should occur Saturday across parts of the Upper Midwest. A few tornadoes, large to very large hail, and significant damaging winds all appear possible. ...Upper Midwest into the Great Lakes... A notable shortwave trough is forecast to progress from the northern Plains east-southeastward across the Upper Midwest and Great Lakes on Saturday. A belt of enhanced mid/upper-level flow will likely accompany this shortwave trough and act to organize thunderstorms that develop ahead of it through the day. There is reasonably good agreement in model guidance that a very moist low-level airmass will be in place ahead of a front across the Upper Midwest Saturday morning. Steepening mid-level lapse rates and robust heating of this airmass through the early afternoon should foster moderate to strong instability. Deep-layer shear will be more than sufficient for organized updrafts, and supercells with a threat for very large hail appear possible with initial convective development across MN. Most guidance also suggests that quick upscale growth into a MCS will occur Saturday afternoon/evening with eastward extent into western/central WI and northeastern IA. Given the degree of buoyancy available, at least scattered damaging/severe winds appear probable as this mode transition occurs. Some of these winds may be significant. Have included an Enhanced Risk where MCS development and propagation appear most likely. Enough low-level shear associated with a southwesterly low-level jet is also forecast to support a threat for a few tornadoes. This severe threat should continue into the Great Lakes region Saturday night, but lesser instability forecast with eastward extent should keep the overall severe threat fairly isolated. ..Gleason.. 07/21/2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Saturday could get interesting. Pretty solid rim of fire setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Friday night through Sunday look for severe weather. Saturday has high-end potential Edited July 21, 2022 by StormfanaticInd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 0z HRRR has something for Saturday morning and at the end the next complex heading through the lakes and likely this way Saturday night/Sunday morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, snowlover2 said: 0z HRRR has something for Saturday morning and at the end the next complex heading through the lakes and likely this way Saturday night/Sunday morning. Not looking like as crazy of a pattern as it looked. GFS has been showing a pretty decent warm bias so I can only blame myself. But Saturday looks interesting. Edited July 22, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 22, 2022 New day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWsnowhio Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: New day 2 Interesting that they've added the tail/hook diving down into Indiana and Ohio...a tell-tale Ring of Fire pattern indicating there's at least the possibility of a windy MCS plowing through. It's not as prominent/evident of a dive as the one in June, but interesting that it's now there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, NWsnowhio said: Interesting that they've added the tail/hook diving down into Indiana and Ohio...a tell-tale Ring of Fire pattern indicating there's at least the possibility of a windy MCS plowing through. It's not as prominent/evident of a dive as the one in June, but interesting that it's now there. That's usually true when you're talking about convection getting going in the morning. But the peak of the event will be in the evening, so it's certainly gonna be significantly weaker once it reaches us because we'll have lost daytime heating and I think moisture is gonna be weaker. I'm actually surprised they put us in a marginal risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWsnowhio Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, ClicheVortex2014 said: That's usually true when you're talking about convection getting going in the morning. But the peak of the event will be in the evening, so it's certainly gonna be significantly weaker once it reaches us because we'll have lost daytime heating and I think moisture is gonna be weaker. I'm actually surprised they put us in a marginal risk. I agree. That's why it was interesting to me to see the marginal added. Reading through text of the outlook though, it appears it's more for redevelopment along an outflow boundary than a weakening MCS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) Ah, this is why. I assumed the marginal risk was for the weakening phase of the enhanced risk MCS. It's actually for the redevelopment from tonights MCS. Maybe this is what you meant, but I was imagining something else. Meanwhile, derecho-ey look for the enhanced risk. Edited July 22, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 22, 2022 Clown NAM even extends into SW OH. SE MN clown sounding SW OH clown sounding (basically centered over Hamilton in Butler county) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 There could be two areas of severe weather tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Something wrong with NWS text products? Noticed ILN AFD hasn't updated since this morning and so i checked IWX and IND and saw the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 22, 2022 4 landspout reports in Kansas, 1 in Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWOhioChaser Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 4 hours ago, NWsnowhio said: Interesting that they've added the tail/hook diving down into Indiana and Ohio...a tell-tale Ring of Fire pattern indicating there's at least the possibility of a windy MCS plowing through. It's not as prominent/evident of a dive as the one in June, but interesting that it's now there. Yeah, storms are always dying/weakening as they get to us. We really don't get any decent setups anymore past several years. If there's morning convection...forget about anything severe in the afternoon. And if something develops way NW, then chances are it mostly dies before it enter the state. Kind of like that batch of storms last night around 11. Looked great coming off the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 22, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) NW KS is still going 40% chance of a watch in NE Nebraska. Usually means SPC will upgrade the area to a slight risk... especially if that 40% comes true. Mesoscale Discussion 1551 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0539 PM CDT Fri Jul 22 2022 Areas affected...Parts of northeast NE into northwest IA Concerning...Severe potential...Watch possible Valid 222239Z - 230045Z Probability of Watch Issuance...40 percent SUMMARY...The risk of isolated severe storms capable of large hail and severe gusts could increase during the next few hours. Trends are being monitored for a possible watch issuance. DISCUSSION...Latest Day Cloud Phase satellite imagery shows a line of towering cumulus with hints of glaciation and a recent orphan anvil along a weak quasi-stationary surface boundary draped across parts of northeast NE into far northwest IA. Continued diurnal heating of rich boundary-layer moisture (lower 70s dewpoints) along/south of the boundary could support isolated convective development during the next couple hours despite only weak large-scale ascent over the area. Steep midlevel lapse rates and large CAPE densities atop the moist/well-mixed boundary are contributing to moderate/strong surface-based instability, which combined with long/straight mid/upper-level hodographs would conditionally support organized convective structures including supercells. In addition, 35-45 kt of effective bulk shear oriented off the surface boundary would initially favor separated updrafts and the potential for isolated large hail and locally severe gusts. Given the conditionally favorable parameter space, isolated significant hail of 2+ in cannot be ruled out. Considering the weak large-scale ascent, it is currently unclear if storm coverage will warrant a watch issuance, though trends will be monitored closely. Edited July 22, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, NWOhioChaser said: Yeah, storms are always dying/weakening as they get to us. We really don't get any decent setups anymore past several years. If there's morning convection...forget about anything severe in the afternoon. And if something develops way NW, then chances are it mostly dies before it enter the state. Kind of like that batch of storms last night around 11. Looked great coming off the lake. Yeah the past several years have been dead overall maybe one to three ok setups a year. We used to get good setups all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 23, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 23, 2022 Overnight MCS actually holds together pretty well into SW OH. Meanwhile... Minnesota and Wisconsin... yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 23, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 23, 2022 Crazy what some sampling will do to a model Model trend loop for 15z tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Looks like ILN updated. Quote AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION National Weather Service Wilmington OH 749 PM EDT Fri Jul 22 2022 .SYNOPSIS... Weak surface high pressure will build across the area offering dry conditions through most of the night. Increasing heat and humidity will be observed this weekend, along with a return of storm chances. Episodic storm chances are expected to continue into next week, potentially lasting through Thursday as warm and humid air remains entrenched across the region. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM SATURDAY MORNING/... Mid level ridge positioned from the Southern Plains through the southeast U.S. with a northwest-west flow across the Ohio Valley. Weak surface trof/front will push east of ILN/s FA early this evening with weak surface high pressure building into the area this evening. The wind shift on either side of this font is subtle, going from WSW to more W or WNW with slightly drier air advecting into the region. The evening will be mostly clear with diurnally driven with only some high level clouds across the area. A MCS is expected to develop over the Upper MS Valley this evening and approach the area late tonight. Mid/high level clouds will increase after midnight. Precipitation should hold off until after sunrise but there is an outside chance that storms could arrive into West Central Ohio just prior to sunrise. Mild temperatures overnight with lows in the upper 60s to lower 70s. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/... Mid level short wave embedded in the westerly flow to track across the area Saturday morning. Expect ongoing MCS that develops across the Mid MS Valley tonight to track into West Central Ohio around 12Z and then across the area Saturday morning. Storms should be in a weakening phase as they push across the area during the morning. Uncertainty in location and expanse of convection continues due to the spread that is observed in the model solutions. The best threat will occur across West Central Ohio. This convection will likely lay out an outflow with additional storm development possible along this boundary in the afternoon in the unstable airmass across southwest OH/northern KY and eastern IN. These storms could produce strong to damaging winds before diminishing by evening. High temperatures to range from the upper 80s north to the mid 90s south. Maximum heat indices may approach 100 in the far south -- along and south of the Ohio River. Storm chances diminish in the evening with the loss of heat and due to the lack of significant forcing. Warm temperatures with lows Saturday night from near 70 east to the mid 70s west. && .LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... A weak disturbance will likely be moving across the Great Lakes region on Sunday while hot, humid, unstable air stays to the south in the Ohio Valley. Most of the forcing associated with the system is expected to remain primarily north of the area. With the best lift to the north, the highest chance of showers and storms on Sunday remains in the vicinity and north of I-70. Any storms could potentially pose a damaging wind threat with deep shear and instability overlapping. The bigger story on Sunday could end up being potential heat headlines if precipitation remains north of the area for most of the day. Forecast highs are expected to be in the low to mid 90s with dewpoints in the lower 70s. Combined heat and humidity likely will lead to apparent temperatures approaching or exceeding 100 which may require a Heat Advisory. Shower and storm chances start increasing late Sunday through the start of the work week as a weak cold front sags south into the Ohio Valley. It is very difficult at this time to forecast the exact frontal position and evolution for next week. The main takeaway is repeated rounds of showers and storms are possible along and ahead of the front. Pockets of heavy rain could occur where multiple rounds of storms set up since PWATs remain anomalously high south of the front. Some severe threat could also exist because of instability overlapping with deep shear associated with an upper level trough digging into the Ohio Valley. Temperatures remain above average south of the front and near average north of the front through the week. HWO: Peak heat index values could reach the upper 90s to around 100 degrees on Sunday. In addition, a few strong to severe thunderstorms are possible Sunday afternoon and evening. Wind damage is the primary threat with these storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteorologist ClicheVortex2014 Posted July 23, 2022 Author Meteorologist Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) The change with the 0z suite makes the western Ohio severe threat less organized but it does show a likely supercell in Darke county heading for Miami county. It would have a threat for all severe hazards, including the potential for significant severe weather. A strong tornado is possible *IF* a supercell verifies and the LCL is lower. Edited July 23, 2022 by ClicheVortex2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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